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How Can You Stop Me Being Violent

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HEYYOU	How Can You Stop Me Being Violent	Lead	[-]
Posts: 6 (30 May, 2009 13:44:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Hello. What the hell crawls in to the cranium of these spaniels? The former subject of all my recent affections has suddenly decided he does not like being on the other side of a fence from me, all very flattering but bloody useless in a rough shooting dog. Now when I got him about 10 weeks ago a four strand barbed wire fence was no problem to him, he would just hop over and you pointed in a direction and he would travel to the horizon. About two weeks ago he decided he didn't like doing that any more and I mean even through a hole in the wire, any amount of stern words bribes me tearing my trousers to show him what to do falls on stony ground.(them eyes! have you ever tried eating a chocolate biscuit in front of a spaniel ?) The only thing I have not tried is physical violence or tying a breeze block round his neck and throwing him a pit hole. Mind you all the bloody gas trapped inside him through not taking a crap would keep him afloat, so that would be a waste of effort. All these mind games with a soddin dog is taking it out of me. I've got high blood pressure you know!!!!
Eugene Molloy		#1	[-]
Posts: 388 (31 May, 2009 07:11:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Have you considered training the dog? That sometimes works. Or you could stop and think about what's going on; the recently acquired dog instead of running amok now wants to stay closer too you, why could that be? It doesn't want to jump wire fences either which most people regard as a blessing. Have you seen a dogs belly ripped open on wire? Once you have you won't want an encore. It sounds as if you have a likely prospect that has a good natural instinct and wants to please you. Set yourself some goals, and start training towards them in easy steps, knock the free running on the head, and give both you and him a chance to succeed. A local training group would be a help and encouragement. Regards Eug Last Edited By: Eugene Molloy 31 May, 2009 07:31:30. Edited 1 times.
SeniorCoot		#2	[-]
Posts: 6 ( 1 June, 2009 10:52:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	OT But last night after water training the three labs 1-7-10 yr old BLM's My wife and I finished off a jar of Wild Boar pate' we got at the Food Hall off the motorway at Gretna Green last May when we visited Great Britain. It was best of the three we bought. none contained more than 25% wild meat.
wendy alexander		#3	[-]
Posts: 540 ( 1 June, 2009 20:08:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm seriously with Euge on this one! Barbed wire is a nightmare, particularly two strands on top of stock fencing - as tends to be the norm! I've seen far too many rips and tears plus we actually lost a lab - that had tried to jump the fence, got her back paws tangled up somehow between the two top strands, which trapped her and basically severed her hind legs right down to the bone - she had to be put down. We've also found a dead deer that have suffered the same scenario. Running and jumping up on to hedges/stone banks is fine, five bar gates - jumping barbs is a nightmare just waiting to happen! I seriously don't endorse fence jumping at all! Perhaps a spaniel isn't for you? It doesn't sound like you're enjoying him? If you're talking breeze blocks and pits - then it's seriously time to move the dog on, give him the chance he deserves - he sounds like a clever guy to me, then re-think what exactly you want from a dog? Sorry to sound harsh - but .......
polmaise		#4	[-]
Posts: 26 ( 1 June, 2009 20:26:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well Wendy might think 'She', has burned your ears??? But I would like to 'turn the thread', 'To How can you stop me being Violent to You!'? You mention that a few weeks ago this dog could do something' ,that it no longer does!?, that should suggest that ', what ever you are doing now! achieves a different response?, I dont even understand your 'pate', from Gretna?, but as for your 'avator', picture of a 'Fish in a boat', I would 'positively' suggest you 'cast', down stream, to a dog that would suit your level of bubble? By what is described', as I see it ,this wee dog is 'adjusting', to your envoirenment?, one of which it is finding 'confusing'?
Windem Bang		#5	[-]
Posts: 300 ( 3 June, 2009 17:10:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	To be perfectly honest if I were a dog I'd jump that barbed wire fence then keep right on going . You don't seem to be making any attempt to learn how to work with a dog. I have a feeling this is a "wind up" post ? Bill T.
wendy alexander		#6	[-]
Posts: 545 (15 July, 2009 20:32:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Polmaise I didn't think I had 'burnt his ears'?? - thought I was actually quite gentle..... Dogs are like people - most you will get on with, occasionally you'll come across a dog/person that isn't right for you and you just can't get on with? If that is the scenario ( as an owner ) you find yourself in and you don't particularly like the dog (let alone think up ways to kill it!) surely it's time to move that dog on and give it half a chance of being happy? I've moved one on - that I bought in, that I just couldn't take to, that wouldn't have ever made a working dog that I could get on with and she's now 100% happy and very obedient in her pet home. They love her to bits, she's happy having no demands - other than basic obedience when out on her hikes across the moors - so it works! I've also bought in two 'problem' bitches - that their owners/handlers couldn't get on with and love them to bits! One is now 8 - I took her on at 15 months and she has been a fantastic working dog for me, my new aquisition is just under 2 year old and we're getting on fine! My oldest dog in my kennel is 13 and I've got 3 of her daughters Horses for courses I think? You either get on and like a dog, or you don't! Surely it's far better to move it on, than think of ways to kill it??

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